Woollamia, NSW
Identification history
| Poranthera ericifolia | 27 Sep 2024 | JasonPStewartNMsnc2016 | ||
| Poranthera ericifolia | 26 Sep 2024 | JasonPStewartNMsnc2016 | ||
| Poranthera microphylla | 26 Sep 2024 | lbradley |
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7 comments
JasonPStewartNMsnc2016
wrote:
26 Sep 2024
Looks another *Poranthera* species.
Checking the botanical keys, eg. :
• https://keybase.rbg.vic.gov.au/keys/show/860
• https://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=gn&name=Poranthera
eg. quotation: "... Leaves linear to narrow-ovate; margins recurved to revolute; dwarf shrubs ..."
Average leaves length and width estimate please?
Initial suggestions : *Poranthera ericifolia*, or *P. corymbosa* in a small growth example – these two species also can grow quite tall compared to *P. microphylla* .
Growing on what geology based soil please? (—sandstone in this location?)
Checking the botanical keys, eg. :
• https://keybase.rbg.vic.gov.au/keys/show/860
• https://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=gn&name=Poranthera
eg. quotation: "... Leaves linear to narrow-ovate; margins recurved to revolute; dwarf shrubs ..."
Average leaves length and width estimate please?
Initial suggestions : *Poranthera ericifolia*, or *P. corymbosa* in a small growth example – these two species also can grow quite tall compared to *P. microphylla* .
Growing on what geology based soil please? (—sandstone in this location?)
JasonPStewartNMsnc2016
wrote:
26 Sep 2024
https://apps.lucidcentral.org/plants_se_nsw/text/entities/poranthera_ericifolia.htm
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JasonPStewartNMsnc2016
wrote:
26 Sep 2024
In your second photograph when looking at full resolution i can view the laciniate (±) stipules.
Enough for confirmation of *Poranthera ericoides* species identification for me.
Enough for confirmation of *Poranthera ericoides* species identification for me.
JasonPStewartNMsnc2016
wrote:
27 Sep 2024
@lbradley I'm happily patiently waiting for hearing from you, before confirmation .
lbradley
wrote:
27 Sep 2024
Ciaran confirmed this one.
It’s frustrating that I’m not doing better with my identifications.
It’s frustrating that I’m not doing better with my identifications.
JasonPStewartNMsnc2016
wrote:
27 Sep 2024
I encourage you – continuing learning well.
In the field these diverse many spp. are not all easy to recognise.
I have to remind everybody that the most experienced botanists including professional field botanists have excellence in skills for identifying plants and occasionally make mis-identifications
(I have documented evidences of top botanists mistakes i have assisted them with and they have assisted me much more than again than I them);
and in scientific reality have no authority status – the science philosophy fallacy named argumentum ad auctoritate – as we all have humanity (we hope! :) )
In the field these diverse many spp. are not all easy to recognise.
I have to remind everybody that the most experienced botanists including professional field botanists have excellence in skills for identifying plants and occasionally make mis-identifications
(I have documented evidences of top botanists mistakes i have assisted them with and they have assisted me much more than again than I them);
and in scientific reality have no authority status – the science philosophy fallacy named argumentum ad auctoritate – as we all have humanity (we hope! :) )
JasonPStewartNMsnc2016
wrote:
27 Sep 2024
An important approach (in my 35 years professional field botanist experience)
is to go all out to sight all the spp. in a genus and botanical family in your focus region .
In my last 12 years in this wet tropics region (NE. Qld) i have successively focussed on different large botanical plants' families in different periods of years and seasons,
and learned every spp. i can in each of these family;
for some examples' families of many spp. out of many more families here:
Sapindaceae, Annonaceae, Myrtaceae, Lauraceae in part only still (so hard here), Proteaceae, Moraceae (figs), etc. .
The same systematic learning approach then mentored by late Jim Willis, late Don Neale, David Cameron, a bit GWCarr, David Albrecht and so on,
i did in the 1980s and 1990s in learning the entire Sand–stone–belt SE Melb. flora there in my late teenage of the late 1980s and first 10 years professionally throighout the 1990s.
is to go all out to sight all the spp. in a genus and botanical family in your focus region .
In my last 12 years in this wet tropics region (NE. Qld) i have successively focussed on different large botanical plants' families in different periods of years and seasons,
and learned every spp. i can in each of these family;
for some examples' families of many spp. out of many more families here:
Sapindaceae, Annonaceae, Myrtaceae, Lauraceae in part only still (so hard here), Proteaceae, Moraceae (figs), etc. .
The same systematic learning approach then mentored by late Jim Willis, late Don Neale, David Cameron, a bit GWCarr, David Albrecht and so on,
i did in the 1980s and 1990s in learning the entire Sand–stone–belt SE Melb. flora there in my late teenage of the late 1980s and first 10 years professionally throighout the 1990s.
Location information
- Coordinates 150.638717-35.020789
- Altitude 9.5m
- Places Woollamia, NSW
Sighting information
- 1 - 3 Abundance
- 26 Sep 2024 12:41 PM Recorded on
- lbradley Recorded by
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Plants Other Wildflowers & Herbs lbradley
Species information
- Poranthera ericifolia Scientific name
- Common name
- Not Sensitive
- Local native
- Non-invasive or negligible
- Up to 659.88m Recorded at altitude
- Machine learning
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In flower
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